no i cant answer your questions

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You: Hi there.

You: How do you feel about abortion?

Stranger: totally against it

You: Me too.

Stranger: oh good. now we are on the same page. What do you think about Rilo Kiley?

You: Whom?

Stranger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVtSSCzASR0&feature=avmsc2

You: Oh, I'm not really into music.

You: What are your views on religion?

Stranger: it depends which religion

You: Do you belong to any religion?

Stranger: well I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and i belong under being a "christian" but the world has skewed the word of what it means to be a christian, and given us a bad name, so i say i have a personal relationship with Christ

You: So you're a theist?

Stranger: noooooo, im not athiest all at. I love God.

You: A theist, not an theist.

Stranger: OHHH

Stranger: my bad

You: LOL

Stranger: haha, uh sure, yeah you could say that

You: What characteristics would you assign to your God?

Stranger: All knowing, all powerful, gracious, never ending love

You: Are you familiar with the problem of nonbelief?

Stranger: just like people not believing or what?

You: Yeah.

You: You say God is all-loving (omnibenevolent).

You: Does this mean he wants everyone to be saved?

Stranger: of course

You: You say God is all-powerful (omnipotent).

You: First, I want to ask you a question.

You: What is needed for one to be saved?

Stranger: repentence

You: Define "repentance".

Stranger: stop going in the direction you are going with your like and do a 180 in the opposite direction. repent for your sins, ask him into your heart. live you life for jesus

Stranger: life*

You: Okay.

You: In order to do this, wouldn't you need to be sure that God exists first?

Stranger: yes

You: If God is omnipotent, he should be able to make his existence abundantly clear.

Stranger: it is abundantly clear. he is everywhere, his creations are everywhere

You: Yet his creations are entirely consistent with a naturalistic worldview.

Stranger: just because one cant see him doesnt mean he doesnt exsist. He is kinda like the wind, although you can't see the wind, you know its there

You: He's all-powerful, right?

Stranger: yep!

You: So he could easily make himself visible, and remove all doubt, thus sparing millions of souls from Hell.

You: Yet he chooses not to.

You: Why?

Stranger: he gives us free will to do what we want

You: I'm not asking him to force us into anything.

You: How would showing us that he exists undermine our free will?

You: We would still be free to choose to not repent.

Stranger: right right, but he gives us free will to make that choice whether we can see him or not.

You: You believe that God interacted with numerous people in the Bible, correct?

Stranger: wait wait, before we go any further, I have a question for you and then ill answer yours.

You: Okay.

Stranger: do you belong to any religion?

You: Not as of today, no.

You: You believe that God interacted with numerous people in the Bible, correct?

Stranger: yes

You: Were they deprived of their free will?

Stranger: no

You: God is all-knowing (omniscient), correct?

Stranger: yep

You: So God knows full well he could make his existence abundantly clear without impairing our free will.

You: And he also knows that plenty of people are going to Hell not because they want to rebel, but because they simply remain unconvinced of his existence.

You: And he's omnibelevolent, as we have established earlier, so he does not want us to go to Hell.

You: AND he's omnipotent, so it is entirely within his power to make his existence abundantly clear.

You: Why, then, is his existence so highly contestable?

Stranger: because people only believe by seeing, so if people can't physically see him then hes not real. but his exsistance is abundantly clear. Why do you not think it is abundantly clear?

You: It is entirely within his power to be seen.

Stranger: so because you cannot physically see him, you don't believe hes real?

You: This isn't about me.

You: If he appeared physically and interacted regularly and openly with us, his existence would not be a question.

You: He's not doing this.

You: Why?

Stranger: because its all about faith

You: You can have faith in anything, from Christianity to Islam to the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

You: God has done nothing to distinguish the claims of Christianity from the claims of every other religion.

You: Why not?

Stranger: yes he has. he is the only God to die, and come back to life. no other God has done this

You: That's my point.

You: How do we know he did this?

You: Why are we to believe this actually occurred?

You: Why does God not come down in person, or at least carve "Hey, God here, just wanted to let you know I'm real!" on the moon?

Stranger: because he doesn't need to do that in order for people to believe.

You: He does for some people.

Stranger: look how many people believe and he didnt carve that into the moon

You: But so many more people would believe.

You: How much has God done to prove his existence? How many things?

Stranger: so many things. just look at the sky at night. how can you look up at the sky and claim that there is no God

Stranger: and i dont mean you personally

Stranger: just in general

You: You mean stars?

You: You DO know how stars are born, right?

You: We've seen it happen.

Stranger: yes, yes. but God is the one who created it all

Stranger: from the begining

Stranger: everything

You: He could make it a bit more obvious; everything in the universe is entirely consistent with a naturalistic worldview.

You: He could make his existence much more obvious than it is now, but he chooses not to, with the full knowledge that not doing to damns millions of well-intentioned souls to everlasting torment.

You: Either he is not omnipotent, not omnibenevolent, or not omniscient.

Stranger: i mean im not sure what you want me to say haha. thats what i truly believe. he is all three of those. and if im not giving a clear enough explaination then i am sorry that im not answering what your looking for. its just what i personally believe

You: Why does God not make his existence more clear than it is now?

You: If he wanted to, he could appear in physical form simultaneously to every human being on the planet and declare his existence to them in their native toungue.

You: tongue*

You: Why doesn't he?

Stranger: im not God, so i do now know why he doesn't do that

You: If he is omniscient, he knows he can do it, and if he is omnibenevolent, he wants to do it, and if he is omnipotent, he is entirely capable of doing it.

You: Yet he does not.

You: Those 3 characteristics are inconsistent with the universe we live in where his existence is in such dispute.

You: They're also internally inconsistent.

You: For example, does God know the future?

Stranger: I feel as if this conversation is going to keep going in circles

You: This is a different question.

You: Does God know the future?

Stranger: I have a question for you, since your asking them all

You: Sure.

Stranger: Are you trying to prove me wrong just for the hell of it, or are you genuinely interested in what i have to say?

You: It can't be both?

Stranger: I don't know. I feel like your soley out for the purpose of proving me 100% wrong

You: If you can address my qualms and demonstrate God's existence that's be great.

Stranger: I can't tell you what you want to hear. so that will never be able to happen

You: You can't answer my questions?

Stranger: no i cant answer your questions. but they arent what you want to hear. so therefore no matter how many of your questions I answer, it wont go anywhere

You: What do I want to hear?

Stranger: you want to hear that your right about everything, hence the reason your trying to prove me wrong haha

You: If I'm wrong, I'd like you to show me how I'm wrong and not just expect me to believe without evidence.

Stranger: then we would need more time then this. I must get going right now though. I am sorry If I did not fufill your conversation needs. Im just glad you brought up an interesting topic to talk about.

You: Yeah.

You: You want to discuss it over email later?

Stranger: yeah, i wouldn't mind that. What is your e-mail address?

You: [email]

Stranger: okay, thank you. I will email you sometime in the near future

You: Cool.

You: See you.

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You: You know what I hate?

Stranger: trolls?

You: Abortion, ax murder, and American cheese.

Stranger: you think ax murder is worse than breaking someones neck?

You: I assume the ax is used to break the neck.

Stranger: why abortion?

You: Huh?

Stranger: why do you hate abortion?

You: Same reason I hate war.

Stranger: because "it is killing"?

You: Because it's homicide.

Stranger: bet you werent knocked up at prom nights

Stranger: or knocked someone up

Stranger: you are selfish

You: What?

Stranger: you talk down about things you shouldnt even care about

Stranger: meddling with other peoples troubles

You: Should I care about infanticide?

Stranger: youre trolling them, to seem good yourself

Stranger: you shouldnt

Stranger: youre a bad person

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You: Hey.

Stranger: hi

You: You know what I hate?

Stranger: What?

You: Abortion, ax murderers, and American cheese.

Stranger: i like first one

Stranger: and last pme

Stranger: and last one

You: You like abortion?

Stranger: yes

You: How come?

Stranger: Why not?

You: Do you like infanticide?

Stranger: no

You: Why not?

Stranger: because I think once the baby is born. he is an identity

Stranger: you don't kill it

You: So a premature baby has an identity but not the same baby if it stayed inside for longer?

You: A vagina isn't magic.

Stranger: ok

You: What about moving 8 inches down the birth canal grants an identity?

Stranger: yes

You: That wasn't a yes-or-no question.

You: Why does where you are have any bearing on who you are?

Stranger: I am what I am

You: You were you in utero too.

You: Also, that rhymed.

Stranger: yes

You: Yes it rhymed or yes you were you?

Stranger: I wish I wasn't born

You: Why?

Stranger: I don't know

You: Do you not like the life you have now?

Stranger: no

You: You don't?

Stranger: no, i don't

You: No you don't like it or no you like it?

Stranger: i don't like my existence in this world

You: Have you ever liked it, like when you were young?

Stranger: maybe

You: When do you think you stopped liking it?

Stranger: when i turned 5

You: Do you think it's acceptable to murder 4-5 year olds?

Stranger: no

You: Why not?

You: They might stop liking their lives next year.

Stranger: how?

You: Like you did.

Stranger: explain

You: idk, you tell me why

You: i dont know why you dont like your existance

You: You said you wish you weren't born. Does that make abortion okay?

Stranger: yes

Stranger: abortions are necessary

You: You started to dislike your life at 5. Does that make murdering 4-year-olds okay?

Stranger: no

You: Why not?

Stranger: you don't kill a person on earth

You: Why not?

You: And is an unborn child NOT on Earth?

Stranger: no

You: Is it okay to kill someone elsewhere, such as on the Moon or in an airplane?

Stranger: no

You: Why not?

Stranger: you cannot kill anyone once they are born

You: Why not? Why does changing your location have any bearing on whether you can be killed?

Stranger: how old are you?

You: I don't see that as relevant to the topic at hand.

Stranger: ok

You: Why does changing your location have any bearing on whether you can be killed?

Stranger: the rules are same every where in universe

Stranger: you don't kill anyone once born

You: Why did you say "you don't kill a person on earth", then?

Stranger: what do you want me to say?

You: I want you to answer my question.

Stranger: i said it because i wanted to say it

You: But you're okay with killing some people on Earth and you're not okay with killing people off Earth.

You: So the statement was not an accurate reflection of your views.

Stranger: i am not okay with killing people anywhere

You: ...except for in the womb.

Stranger: i don't know

Stranger: but abortion is necessary

You: Is it morally acceptable?

Stranger: no

Stranger: but it's necessary

You: Why is it necessary?

Stranger: for balance and equality

You: Explain.

You: Abortion is the antithesis of equality. It is the systematic slaughter of millions of people deemed inferior.

Stranger: you are missing the complete picture

You: Enlighten me.

You: Why is it that the enormity of abortion can be ignored?

You: enormity
uncountable Extreme wickedness, nefariousness.
countable An act of extreme evil or wickedness.

Stranger: don't let your emotions rule you

Stranger: think about the baby too

You: I *am* thinking about the baby!

You: Are you?

You: Abortion takes the life of an innocent human being.

You: How is that any more tolerable than taking the life of an innocent human being after birth?

Stranger: maybe for the happiness of the baby

You: How can a dead baby POSSIBLY be happy?

Stranger: and baby is not a human being if it's still in the womb

You: Why is it not okay to kill a born baby that may grow up unhappy?

You: What?

You: What species is the baby?

Stranger: ahh

You: I was under the impression the baby was a member of the species H. sapiens, specifically the subspecies H. sapiens sapiens.

You: Why is it not okay to kill a born baby that may grow up unhappy?

You: Sorry, one question at a time.

You: First, why is it not okay to kill a born baby that may grow up unhappy?

Stranger: there is no such thing

You: What do you mean?

Stranger: abortion is for the happiness of all

You: What do you mean?

You: And why is homicide an acceptable way to achieve happiness?

You: Hello?

Stranger: killing is bad

Stranger: homicide is bad

You: But not in utero?

Stranger: no

You: So killing and homicide are okay as long as they happen in utero?

Stranger: we not killing anyone

You: Really?

You: So the over 52,000,000 million aborted in America are just walking around now, alive?

Stranger: no

Stranger: abortion is not killing

You: How so?

You: They're not alive any more.

You: And their deaths were caused by someone.

You: That meets the definition of "killing".

Stranger: yea

Stranger: abort the baby if you don't want it

Stranger: it

You: How is it not killing, and why can you not abort a born baby if you don't want it?

Stranger: it's all emotions

Stranger: i mean don't give a birth to a baby if you don't want it

You: The baby is going to be born. The only question is whether the baby will be born dead or alive.

You: How is abortion not killing?

You: transitive To put to death; to extinguish the life of.
Smoking kills more people each year than alcohol and drugs combined.
There is conclusive evidence that smoking kills.

Stranger: ok

You: How is abortion not killing?

Stranger: the word is not killing

You: Is the action killing?

Stranger: is the action, killing?

You: Is the act of abortion an act of killing?

Stranger: no

Stranger: it's not killing if it

You: How is it not?

Stranger: it's not killing if it has no identity

You: What?

You: kill, verb

You: transitive To put to death; to extinguish the life of.

You: gimme a sec; that was off wiktionary

You: lemme use webster's

You: Main Entry: 1kill
Pronunciation: \ˈkil\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, perhaps from Old English *cyllan; akin to Old English cwellan to kill — more at quell
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
1 a : to deprive of life : cause the death of

Stranger: it's simple thing

Stranger: if you don't want baby don't have a baby

You: Main Entry: abor·tion
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈbȯr-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 1547
1 : the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus

You: If you're pregnant, you already have a baby.

You: It's just inside you.

You: You still haven't told me how changing your location gives you an identity?

You: .

Stranger: if your mind tells you, you don't want a baby

Stranger: then abortion is not killing

You: What if your mind tells you that after the baby is born?

You: Then is killing a newborn not killing?

Stranger: you don't kill a baby once it's outside

You: Why not?

Stranger: that's murder

You: Why isn't it murder to kill the same child in utero?

You: Okay, imagine this.

You: A baby is conceived, and is born a week early, at 37 weeks after conception.

You: Is it okay to kill this baby?

Stranger: do you know how gays are genetically gays?

You: That's not been conclusively proven either way; it is probably part genetic and part environmental.

Stranger: their sexual orientation is ruled by their parent's brain

You: This doesn't have anything to do with anything. Is it or is it not okay to kill a born baby 37 weeks after fertilization?

Stranger: if the mother tells that she doesn't want to have a baby then it's okay

Stranger: if she is concious enough to make decisions

You: To kill the born baby?

Stranger: no

Stranger: you don't kill it after the baby is outside

You: Is it or is it not okay to kill a BORN baby 37 weeks after fertilization?

Stranger: depends on the mother

You: You just said you don't kill it after the baby is outside.

Stranger: yes

You: So it's not okay to kill a BORN baby 37 weeks after fertilization?

You: Is it okay to kill a born baby?

Stranger: born baby?

You: Yes.

You: A baby that has been born.

Stranger: you don't kill

Stranger: if it's out

You: Is it okay to kill an unborn baby that is a week or 2 older?

Stranger: yeah

You: WHY?

Stranger: it mother says so

Stranger: if*

Stranger: mother is not ready

You: Is it okay to kill a born baby if the mother says so?

You: And is not ready?

Stranger: yeah

You: a BORN baby?

Stranger: no

Stranger: if mother says she wants a baby

You: You just said yeah!

Stranger: and then the baby is born

Stranger: and if now she says she doesn't want a baby, you cannot kill it

You: Is it okay to kill a baby that has already been born if the mother says so and is not ready?

Stranger: you don't kill anything if it's born

You: Is it okay to kill a baby that has not yet been born if the mother says so and is not ready?

Stranger: yes

You: WHY?

Stranger: mother is not ready, and the baby is still inside

You: WHY can the EXACT SAME BABY, in a different location, can be killed?

Stranger: nobody kills born babies

You: Some people do.

Stranger: they are murders

Stranger: murderers*

You: There was a teen mom who did recently, to make her life easier.

Stranger: teen mom?

You: Yes.

You: A mom who is a teen.

Stranger: she wasn't ready

Stranger: and gave birth to a baby?

Stranger: you don't kill it

You: Was it okay for her to kill her baby 4 months after birth?

Stranger: omg

Stranger: you don't kill a baby if the baby is born

You: Why can you kill a baby if the baby isn't born?

You: WHY can the EXACT SAME BABY, in a different location, be killed?

Stranger: mother is not ready

You: Why is it not okay to kill your born baby if you're not ready?

Stranger: it's not okay to kill a baby if it's born

You: Why?

Stranger: that's murder

You: Why is it not murder to kill the same baby somewhere else?

Stranger: you don't call it murder if it has no real existence

You: An unborn baby doesn't exist?

Stranger: no

Stranger: mother is not ready

You: How can someone who doesn't exist be aborted?

Stranger: the baby doesn't exist

Stranger: if mother is not ready, ready. the baby doesn't exist

You: Explain.

You: Are you saying that the baby does not exist if the mother is not ready?

Stranger: you are shifting your way of thinking

You: I'm confused.

Stranger: it's simple

You: Explain.

Stranger: everything is controlled by your brain

Stranger: if mother is not ready, she knows it

You: Why is it okay to kill an unborn baby you're not ready for, but not okay to kill a born baby you're not ready for?

Stranger: for happiness

You: Why is it not okay to kill a born baby you're not ready for?

Stranger: you cannot kill any one if it's outside

You: Why?

Stranger: imbalance

You: Huh?

You: WHY can the EXACT SAME BABY be killed in a different location‽

Stranger: you are scientific now

Stranger: but when it comes to killing a baby in mother's womb, you are not scientific

You: What do you mean?

Stranger: you are changing your way of thinking

You: What?

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I guess newborns aren't persons. o_O

You: what would u do if u got a girl pregnant

Stranger: Hahahhaha I would skip town

Stranger: Or suggest the abortion.

You: Abortion? Really?

Stranger: Yea

You: seems a bit mean

Stranger: No.

Stranger: To each their own

You: i mean not just for the kid it can mess up the mom too

Stranger: Having the kid can mess up the mom.

Stranger: Abortions are totally safe

Stranger: I always use a condom anyways.

You: what if she kept it secret

You: and u only found out after the kid was born

You: would u suggest she kill the kid then?

Stranger: I'd skip town.

Stranger: No because now its actually an independant being.

You: to each his own

Stranger: It's not killing when it's in the womb.

You: how isnt it?

Stranger: Because it isn't alive. It's just growing.

Stranger: It is alive, sorry

You: how the hell can the kid grow if its not alive???

You: ok

Stranger: But it isn't a "person"

Stranger: Murder is killing a person.

Stranger: But to be a person

You: how isnt it a person

You: its a human being

Stranger: You have to be a logically think independant being.

Stranger: You have to have reason.

Stranger: And a fetus does not have reason.

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You: Abortion makes me sad. =(

Stranger: hello

Stranger: oh

Stranger: why

You: It's a sad thing.

Stranger: why's that?

You: What do you mean?

Stranger: Why is it sad?

You: Same reason it's sad when anyone dies.

Stranger: Everyone has to die.

You: It's still sad when they die, especially if they were killed.

Stranger: Some people would argue that fetuses aren't people, so its not really murder

You: How can they not be people?

You: They're human beings.

Stranger: Is an egg a chicken?

You: No, but some have chicks inside them.

Stranger: i think the argument goes

Stranger: that since they don't have a working brain they aren't considered people

Stranger: just something that could grow into a person

You: So is Sarah Palin not a person? ;)

Stranger: like an egg can grow into a chicken, but is still different

Stranger: hahaha

You: Why should someone be discriminated against based on their mental capacities?

You: I mean a newborn acts purely on instincts for quite a while, no smarter than plenty of non-human animals.

Stranger: but it has a brain, and can feel pain and fear

Stranger: so it's inhumane to harm or kill a newborn

You: So can non-human animals.

Stranger: whereas a fetus can't feel pain for the majority of its gestation period

You: Wait, is it okay to kill someone that can't feel pain?

Stranger: is not feeling pain the only thing wrong with them?

You: Yeah.

You: Well, not necessarily.

Stranger: they're still thinking, living beings

Stranger: unless you're talking about someone who is brain dead

You: Okay, so if someone was under anesthesia, can they be killed?

Stranger: can they? yeah. should they? no.

You: Why not?

Stranger: because anesthesia is different than brain death

Stranger: or not having a brain

You: I'm talking about general anesthesia.

Stranger: yeah

Stranger: your brain is still working under anesthesia

Stranger: it's subdued

Stranger: and you aren't conscious

You: Working, yes, but not at a very high level.

Stranger: which is still a level up froma fetus

You: So, are cows people?

Stranger: whose brain stem doesn't even work

Stranger: no

Stranger: they're cows

You: Why not? They feel pain and fear.

Stranger: they aren't self aware and sentient to the level we are

You: Neither are newborns.

Stranger: newborns are surprisingly smart, smarter than you'd likely give them credit

You: Not right out of the womb.

Stranger: yeah actually

You: For a while, they act purely on instinct.

Stranger: they begin soaking up information as soon as they're out

You: Yes, true.

You: Awareness and self-awareness are different.

Stranger: of course

You: A cow also soaks up information.

Stranger: yes

You: Newborns, the severely retarded, sever Alzheimer's patients, all aren't self-aware.

Stranger: Yep

Stranger: but fetuses are neither

Stranger: in the first, and part of the second trimester at least

You: Are newborns, the severely retarded, severe Alzheimer's patients not people?

Stranger: they're clearly people

You: Why?

You: They're not self-aware.

Stranger: is that a crucial part of being human?

You: You seem to think it is.

Stranger: i'd say that structurally they are human

Stranger: so they're people

Stranger: a fetus is not structurally a human

Stranger: it's getting there

Stranger: but it isn't there yet

You: What do you mean "structurally"?

You: The fetus is just like what a human at that age should be.

Stranger: has, y'know, all the parts of a human in place

Stranger: a fetus doesn't have a brain for like the first trimester

Stranger: the first few days its just a mass of cells with no human like shape at all

You: Development is a continuum.

You: http://www.ehd.org/science_main.php?level=i

Stranger: yeah it is

Stranger: but there has to be a line some where

Stranger: where you say "this is human, this isn't"

You: Scientifically, it's a human from the beginning.

Stranger: other wise you could count an egg and seperate sperm as human, since they're a step in the development

You: No, they are not.

Stranger: and so masturbating and ovulation are murder

You: The egg is part of the mother and the sperm is part of the father.

You: When they join, they form a zygote, the first stage of development.

Stranger: with out those stages, you couldn't have the "first stage"

Stranger: so they're in the contiuum

You: No, they're not. The zygote is a new organism.

You: BRB

You: if u have to leave, email me

You: [email]

Stranger: no, i'm good for a while

Stranger: but the point you're bringing up

Stranger: if i may

Stranger: is that at the point of conception, a new organism is formed

Stranger: and this new organism is, through all stages of development, a human being

Stranger: so destroying it at any stage is murder

Stranger: am i understanding you correctly?

You: to kill the organism at any stage is homicide

You: murder is illegal by definition

Stranger: Okay.

Stranger: I can see your point.

Stranger: And what I think it boils down to is that everyone has their own line, where they say what a human is.

Stranger: It's a bit arbitrary, but that's where the disagreements come from.

You: Some draw the line of personhood after birth.

Stranger: Yeah.

Stranger: And so to them, abortion is just destroying some worthless organism.

You: Same with infanticide.

You: Some think newborns aren't smart enough for rights.

Stranger: I think they're fairly uncommon, but yeah.

You: Peter Singer, for instance.

Stranger: Some people don't even appreciate an adult's right to live.

Stranger: Serial killers, people like that.

You: Yeah.

You: Have you heard MLK's quote about restraining the heartlesS?

Stranger: Can't say I have.

You: ok just a sec

You: "Now the other myth that gets around is the idea that legislation cannot really solve the problem and that it has no great role to play in this period of social change because you've got to change the heart and you can't change the heart through legislation. You can't legislate morals. The job must be done through education and religion. Well, there's half-truth involved here. Certainly, if the problem is to be solved then in the final sense, hearts must be changed. Religion and education must play a great role in changing the heart. But we must go on to say that while it may be true that morality cannot be legislated, behavior can be regulated. It may be true that the law cannot change the heart but it can restrain the heartless. It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me but it can keep him from lynching me and I think that is pretty important, also.

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So there is a need for executive orders. There is a need for judicial decrees. There is a need for civil rights legislation on the local scale within states and on the national scale from the federal government."

~ Exerpt from a speech by Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Stranger: He was a pretty smart dude, that MLK

You: Yeah.

You: We need to agree upon who's a person (and biology seems like the best way), because otherwise nobody is safe.

Stranger: And I think for the most part, we have.

Stranger: Seeing as how killing a person from the third trimester up is illegal everywhere

You: Not true.

Stranger: it's a period of 6 months that people are fighting over now

Stranger: well, a good number of places

Stranger: unless the mother's life is in danger, I think

You: In the US, it's mother's "health", which has been defined to include pretty much any possible reason for abortion, including socioeconomic ones.

Stranger: That's pretty vague.

You: Yeah, it's a loophole so big you could drive a Death Star through it.

Stranger: And I would definitely be for tightening that up.

Stranger: especially now that maternity wards have gotten advanced enough that you could be born a month early and still stand a good chance

You: More than a month, even,\

You: the young4est premmie to survive was 21.5 weeks, way short of 38

You: i have to go soon. can u email me?

Stranger: I'm guessing that was pretty uncommon though

Stranger: sure

Stranger: i'm [email]

You: usually we wait until full term

Stranger: feel free to drop me a line

You: ok

You: cya

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