Friday, October 22, 2010

Be consistent at least!

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You: Heya. How do you feel about abortion?
Stranger: you're a male
Stranger: well, i feel it's subjective
Stranger: and it's up to the individual
You: How about infanticide?
Stranger: that's pretty heinous
Stranger: murder in general is pretty deplorable
You: Isn't infanticide subjective too?
Stranger: yes. I said that.
You: Not everyone thinks it's wrong.
Stranger: I agree. I don't think it's wrong.
You: You don't think infanticide is wrong?
Stranger: I'm referring to abortion. infanticide is wrong
You: Isn't infanticide subjective?
Stranger: actually, I don't have a clear definition of infanticide. I'd need more info. it sounds like murder of babies.
Stranger: I suppose everything is.
You: Infanticide is the killing of infants.
Stranger: even that statement
Stranger: ah, then I see that as wrong. But someone else may not therefore it is subjective
You: Why do you see it as wrong?
Stranger: because it's killing a human being I suppose
You: And the same person isn't a human being before birth?
Stranger: The mother has that say so
Stranger: Is the mother of her pack wrong when she eats her baby to survive?
You: What?
Stranger: or so that the rest will survive
You: Does the mother have the say so to kill her newborn?
Stranger: not once it's born
You: Does she get to decide if her toddler is human?
Stranger: No. Most likely it's human if it's come out of her?
Stranger: Should be a period up there
You: How so?
Stranger: 10 fingers and all that
Stranger: walking upright. two legs.
Stranger: breathes air
You: Right, because newborns walk upright.
Stranger: if you hold em up. I'm saying it's human that's all.
You: If you're born without fingers or without arms, are you not human?
Stranger: You started this conversation. If you don't like what I have to say then you can leave.
You: I just don't get it.
Stranger: You're totally human. Came out of a human vagina and grew from a sperm? Probably qualifies you.
Stranger: I've a friend with six fingers. She's a human. Don't feel bad though. She had to convince me too.
You: The unborn child also came from two humans.
Stranger: That's true.
You: I don't see any species the baby could belong to but H. sapiens.
Stranger: It's human. I'll give you that. But it's still unborn.
You: So?
You: What makes born humans more important?
Stranger: So if it's not born can it be killed?
Stranger: Your issue is with the killing of infants right?
You: Would it be okay to kill a premature baby?
Stranger: No, it's already been born.
You: One that was born, but early?
You: Would it be okay to kill a full-term unborn baby?
Stranger: He just got to the party early. You don't kill someone for that. You say, "Thanks for being prompt."
You: If a baby is late to the party, can you kill them, as long as it's before birth?
Stranger: I don't think so. I think up until the second trimester or something. I forget where the law stands.
Stranger: HAHAHAH
Stranger: that was awesome
You: Why the second trimester?
You: What?
You: You sounded like you were saying being unborn made it okay to kill you.
Stranger: I don't know. The law says that abortion is okay before the second trimester or something
Stranger: you can't be killed if you're not born
You: What do you mean?
Stranger: killing means taking away/ceasing life. To have life you must be born. If you're not born then you're not alive.
You: How can something that's not alive grow, develop, metabolize, maintain homeostasis, respond to stimuli, and so on?
You: And would infanticide be okay if it was legal?
Stranger: It doesn't do all that until a certain point right? After that point figure you shouldn't abort. I think legalizing infanticide is a bad idea. Why would you suggest that?
Stranger: Are you a nazi?
You: No, I'm not.
You: And the child does those from conception.
Stranger: Well, I'll assume you are one until you prove otherwise.
You: You do know what metabolism and homeostasis are, right?
Stranger: Nope. I retract my statement. I'm clearly not schooled enough to have an opinion here. Which is all the more reason for the mother to have a say so and not me.
You: Should the mother have a say so as to the humanity of her born children?
Stranger: No. Most likely it'll be human.
Stranger: Unless it's the anti-christ. Then we should snip that bud like nobody's business.
You: Biologically, the child is human from conception.
Stranger: Go on...
Stranger: i've already agreed to it being human
You: So why is it okay to kill such a human being? You said she shouldn't have say so with her newborn because the newborn is a human.
Stranger: Well that wasn't a well thought out statement obviously. haha
You: Why is it wrong to kill one human being but not another?
Stranger: It's wrong to kill a human being.
You: Are we not equal, with certain unalienable rights, among these being the right to life?
You: So it is wrong to kill an unborn child.
You: Stranger: i've already agreed to it being human
Stranger: It's wrong to kill a human being.
Stranger: Perhaps I was wrong then. But it isn't considered killing by some people. Again, subjectivity.
Stranger: Is it wrong to waste my sperm?
You: Biologically, it is killing.
You: Your sperm are part of your body.
You: I don't see how it would be any wronger than skinning your knee.
Stranger: I mean, they're all potentially human right? So i'm killing millions of people when I jack off. I'm practically Hitler over here.
Stranger: So isn't an unborn baby part of a woman's body? What with being inside her and connected to her and all
You: They all have the potential to contribute to half the genome of a human being. An unborn baby is already a human being.
You: No, not at all.
Stranger: Or what about you when you let guys you're with wear a condom? You're effectively not letting your eggs have a chance at life. That's worse than killing the part of your body or "skinning" your unborn baby
You: An egg has the potential to contribute to half the genome of a human being. An unborn baby is already a human being.
Stranger: What if it's a stillbirth? Why go through that later?
Stranger: you could finish it off early on
You: The baby has to be fed through the placenta, indirectly, and inhibit her immune system or else the mother's body will expel the baby as a foreign intruder.
You: If the baby's already dead, I don't see a problem with removing a corpse. In fact, if you don't it will rot and cause infection.
Stranger: Whatever it is, killing as you say, is up to the mother. It's part of her body. She feeds it and carries it and is one with her until she births it. Farbeit from me to feel I can tell her what she can do with it. You however, feel you can tell her what to do with it.
You: The baby is NOT a part of her body.
Stranger: I'm not sure if you're trying to change my mind on the subject. I say it's okay and it's up to the mother. That's pretty much it. I don't think I can make you understand if you choose not to.
Stranger: Really? That umbellical cord says otherwise.
Stranger: If I yank that baby out it's not going to hurt the mother then right?
You: So you don't think two organisms can's be physically connected?
You: Plenty of organisms attach to other organisms for nutrition.
You: Or what about conjoined twins?
Stranger: I do. I just said that. Here let me quote myself for you: "She feeds it and carries it and is one with her until she births it"
You: She feeds and carries the baby, true, but that does not make it part of her.
Stranger: So it is You don't think they're connected. Here, I'll quote you: "The baby is NOT a part of her body."
Stranger: we're saying the same thing
You: They ARE connected.
Stranger: then why did you say they aren't?
You: Being connected to someone and being part of then is not the same thing.
Stranger: I say different. Yet another thing we disagree on.
You: Is it okay to kill a born baby if the cord isn't out yet?
Stranger: haha nope
You: How come?
Stranger: I told you at some point early on in the pregnancy it's okay to terminate that little parasite.
Stranger: Are you effectively trying to change my mind?
You: I'm just asking questions.
You: Is it okay to kill the baby at 9 months?
Stranger: well I'm tired of talking about this. I've stated my position several times. You seem like a level headed woman though. Is your daughter pregnant? Are you Sarah Palin?
You: No, no, and no.
Stranger: So you're not a level headed woman?
You: Nope.
Stranger: I suppose you aren't, Sarah.
Stranger: I really dig that porno you were in.
You: I'm a dude.
Stranger: Your best political move was getting into porn. Kudos.
Stranger: hahah sarah palin is a dude
Stranger: anyhow, i have other people to not be preached to by. have a good one, lady.
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You: Heya. How do you feel about abortion?
Stranger: pro-choice
You: Could you specify?
Stranger: ...
Stranger: how much more specific do you want me to be?
You: Pro-choice through all 9 months for all reasons?
Stranger: yup
You: If a woman was past her due date and wanted to do it for funzies, that'd be okay with you?
Stranger: thatd be stupid, but yeah
You: What if she was paster her due date but the baby had been born?
Stranger: thats not an abortion, thats infanticide
Stranger: which im against
You: Why?
You: It's the same baby, maybe even older.
You: How about a baby born premature?
Stranger: if a woman bears it to birth, shes stuck with it
Stranger: or can put it up for adoption, but, yknow
You: So killing a 29-week premie is wrong but killing a 42-week postterm baby is fine?
Stranger: stop trying to make me look like a bastard
You: What is it about the vagina that means passing through one magically gives you rights?
Stranger: if a woman doesnt want the baby, shed probably get an abortion as soon as she found out
You: That's not what I'm asking.
Stranger: yeah, youre asking me questions about situations that are unlikely to occur
You: You said if a woman was past her due date, it'd be okay with you for her to kill the baby.
Stranger: but stupid
You: But you don't think it's wrong.
You: Yet the exact same baby less than a foot away would have the right to not be killed?
You: Or an even younger, less developed baby even?
You: Why is it morally acceptable in your mind to kill a baby at 9 months old, one that could certainly survive outside the womb, but that a movement of less than a foot causes it to be morally repugnant?
You: What about a change in his or her position grants any rights he or she did not already have?
You: Does where you are have that much of an impact on who you are?
You: Hello?
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