Tuesday, March 30, 2010


You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You: Hi.
Stranger: ni hao :D
You: How do you feel about abortion?
Stranger: i think its ...
Stranger: i dont know, depends on the circumstances
You: is there anything wrong with it?
Stranger: i think its like killing a baby in there sleep. if you were irresponsible and dumb enough to get pregnant in the first place then you should take responsibilty
You: when is it okay to kill a baby?
Stranger: but then again if you cant raise it properly its better off with abortion
You: Do you feel the same way about infanticide?
Stranger: never. maybe if it has serious issues and lives in pain and can never recover
You: What if they cant raise it properly
Stranger: then the baby will probably turn out very emotional unstable
You: would you support killing that baby?
Stranger: no.
You: why not?
Stranger: just because a child has emotional unstability is no reason for him or her to be put to death
Stranger: there are murders who arent put to death
Stranger: and you want to murder a emotional unstable child
Stranger: ?
You: no, you want to the murder the same baby a few months earlier for the same reason
Stranger: no. if the baby has issues such as physical issues and is in a lot of pain and will not recover
Stranger: not about emotional stability
You: Stranger: but then again if you cant raise it properly its better off with abortion
Stranger: maybe...
Stranger: i take tht back! :D
You: ok
Stranger: why do you ask?
You: because abortion has killed over a quarter of my generation.
Stranger: and so you randomly decieded to ask?
You: I, personally, could've been killed from late 1992 to mid 1993 because I was considered too young to deserve human rights.
Stranger: there is already over population
You: I agree.
You: Can we kill people to curb overpopulation?
You: Could I just go out and gun down my neighbors in the name of saving the planet?
You: We need to promote contraception and abstinence, and find more efficient ways to allocate our resources.
Stranger: killing those few people would do no good
You: What if I killed all the Jews?
You: Would that be okay?
Stranger: no. you dont want to go out and kill people who are already ther
You: Personally, I don't want to live in a society whose fruitfullness is payed for with the blood of the innocents
Stranger: you want to prevent over population by by stopping the amount of the later generation
You: Hence, contraception and abstinence
You: I do not believe in killing hte next generation
You: that is wrong
Stranger: preventing the amounts not by murder
You: I agree with that.
You: However, it is just as unacceptable to kill the next generation in utero as it is to kill them ex utero.
You: I totally agree we need to stop breeding so damn fast
You: But we can't kill each other; that would be wrong
Stranger: thats why there are laws in china, restricting one child per person
Stranger: *per family
You: Good in theory, but in practice it gets terrible
You: forced sterilizations, forced late term abortions and all
Stranger: true
Stranger: but if i look around there are few people ... chinese people that i know of with brothers and sisters
You: Anyway, I agree that overpopulation is an issue, but mass homicide is not the answer
You: We need to learn to solve our problems without violence.
Stranger: i never thought it was
Stranger: violence should never be the answer
Stranger: if it is your not asking the right question
You: You support violence against unborn boys and girls as the answer to overpopulation
Stranger: i never said that
You: Then why bring up overpopulation in the first place?
Stranger: conversational piece
You: It was a red herring completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
Stranger: ... i dont know what to say to that ^^
Stranger: how old are you?
You: You?
Stranger: guess
You: 19?
Stranger: why do you guess that?
You: Average Omegler's age.
Stranger: im 13
You: oh
Stranger: didnt you think i seemed a little slow for a 19 year old
You: But, yeah, I don't think it's acceptable to take someone's life for financial reasons either.
You: IDK
Stranger: haha :)
Stranger: you shouldnt.
You: Most people I speak to can be pretty slow.
Stranger: hehe :) wow, you know how to make people feel good about themselves xD
You: LOL
Stranger: lol xD
Stranger: maybe there not slow but just seem so because they are on a chatting website where they are just trying to have some fun conversations
You: hey this one dude said it would be morally acceptable if i murdered him painlessly and replaced him with a robot
You: but that eating chocolate is wrong if it makes anyone upset
Stranger: i love omeglers :D
Stranger: &#lt;3
You: i have the whole conversation archived if yyou wanna read it
Stranger: its okay :)
Stranger: i have some pretty funny ones too myself
Stranger: but thats because im immature ^^
You: lol
You: so do you really think abortion is okay if the parents cant raise the kid?
Stranger: no
You: ok cool
You: how do u feel about the death penalty?
Stranger: its hypocritical
You: oh same
You: what about abortion in the case of rape?
Stranger: ... oh god, thats hard
Stranger: i would have to say that would be okay
You: Psychologically, it's hard.
Stranger: yes
Stranger: thats what i mean
You: Rape is a despicable crime and rapists are the scum of the earth
Stranger: imagine having to raise the child you had because someone raped you
You: So you oppose the death penalty, except for on innocent babies for the crimes of their fathers?
You: A convicted serial killer lives, but an innocent baby dies?
Stranger: ahh! you make it so hard to answer!
Stranger: what would you do!
You: I would do adoption.
Stranger: would you want to keep the baby?
You: While the rape is a terrible crime, it's not the baby's fault.
Stranger: mhm
Stranger: the connection will implode soon
Stranger: you do know that right
You: In fact, the baby was abandoned by his father so hes sorta a victim too
Stranger: /:
You: why will it implode?
Stranger: it just does, anytime i talk to someone for too long
Stranger: it implodes
You: oh ok
You: well email 0020 to REDACTED to continue
Stranger: lol okay
Stranger: some people are so rude ):
You: huh?
Stranger: i omegling other people
Stranger: and i said ni hao :D have you seen my pet dinosaur anywhere? ive despretly been trying to find him
Stranger: and they disconnected ):
Stranger: haha
You: lol
You: Well I hope I've made you think about your views.
You: oh one more thing
Stranger: ni hao :D have you seen my pet dinosaur anywhere? ive despretly been trying to find him
stranger: vampire this
Stranger: lol xd
Stranger: yes yes yes :d
Stranger: what is it
Stranger: ?
You: the disabled babies thing
Stranger: mhm
Stranger: mhmmmmmm
Stranger: it would have to
Stranger: be a serious serious serious disabilty
Stranger: that would cause them
You: do people with disabilities loose their right to live?
You: can I go to all the special ed classes and just shoot them?
Stranger: no, but if you live your whole life in pain. living off a machine you would want to die
Stranger: not that kind of disability
You: You don't know what I would want.
You: You have no right to make that decision for me.
Stranger: you annoy me, your to smart for your own good
You: Would you be okay with a compromise, where we do not offer futile care, but we refrain from outright homicide and offer basic care such as food and water?
You: Meaning we don't just keep people alive on machines but don't kill them by abortion either?
Stranger: okay
You: Or where we keep them alive, but offer medication to stop pain
Stranger: if there was medication then you wouldnt kill them
Stranger: obviously
You: Because I think we need to be saving lives, not deciding some are not worth living.
Stranger: everyone has equal worth
You: We shouldn't choose death for anyone.
Stranger: no matter race, gender or whatever else
You: Even if we think we would like to die in that situation
You: because we can't project our wishes onto them
Stranger: but if THEY want to die
You: If they want to die, go ahead.
Stranger: but how would you knmow?
You: just dont force any doctors to participate and make sure the patient wasnt pressured into it
You: they would need to give consent
You: babies clearly dont consent
You: i have the same problem with infant circumcision
Stranger: well maybe there parents want something and pressure them
Stranger: ...
You: "make sure the patient wasnt pressured into it"
Stranger: that is the parents desicion i guess
Stranger: well how can you tell
Stranger: that they werent pressured
Stranger: or threatened even
You: how do you threaten someone to kill themselves
Stranger: maybe they want to live
You: commit suicide or imma kill you!
Stranger: but it would cost too much
Stranger: so people persuade them
Stranger: to dieee
You: We need health reform
Stranger: its the same problem they had with old people
You: It should never be "too expensive to live"
Stranger: yes but some people
Stranger: dont think that way
Stranger: not everyone is moral
You: I know.
Stranger: there are many unethical people
Stranger: in the world
You: I know.
You: But, yeah, I have no problem with consentual suicide.
You: But taking someone's life without consent is not suicide
You: This includes infanticide/abortion.
Stranger: MURDERRR
You: I believe that health care should protect, save, and prolong life, not take it.
You: You don't cure patients by killing them, even infant and unborn patients.
You: Actually, that's not even an "I believe"
You: that's the definition of health care
Stranger: mhm
You: So even if the baby has "problems", its wrong 3 kill him/her
Stranger: uh huh
You: 2^
Stranger: ^^
You: I would prefer, actually, that we did take all measures necessary to prolong life, even "a machine"
You: lots of people depend on dialysis machines
You: or resperators
You: or pacemakers
Stranger: yes yes ye s
Stranger: i know
You: i dont think needing help to stay alive makes you subhuman
Stranger: im not completley dim
You: we all need help to varying degrees
Stranger: uh huh
Stranger: okay, bye
You: bye
You: you have my email if u have any more thoughts
You: 0020
You: cya :D
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