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Stranger: morning!

You: Hi.

You: How do you feel about abortion?

Stranger: lol, I support a woman's right to choose, but not the act itself

Stranger: u?

You: Why do you not support the act itself?

Stranger: because I personally think it's wrong but I don't think the government should be involved

You: I'm asking why you personally think it's wrong.

Stranger: because we don't know when life begins and I'd rather be safe than sorry on the whole murdering babies thing :-P

Stranger: not that I like babies

Stranger: they stink

Stranger: and cry

Stranger: and are generally quite annoying

You: Would you be happy extending that principle to newborn babies?

You: That women should have the choice to kill them?

You: Is that also something the government shouldn't be involved in?

Stranger: depending if something's wrong with the kid

Stranger: or very ill

You: Are disabled people subhuman now?

Stranger: why waste our country's resources on something that won't even have a chance to enjoy life?

Stranger: there's so many starving people in this country

You: Okay, then would you be okay with killing a disabled toddler?

Stranger: if we let a few sick babies die we could feed so many more people and actually do a lot of good

Stranger: nah if they've already gotten that far might as well make them a productive member of society

Stranger: the resources have already been allocated for the kid to get that far

You: How old does a disabled kid need to be before they get the right to live?

Stranger: depending on how much has been invested in them... and I'm really talking about kids who aren't just retarding, I'm talking comtose drool forever

Stranger: *retarded

You: Okay, now there's something I find interesting here.

You: You said a parent can kill her born baby only if that baby is disabled.

Stranger: or very ill.

You: However, you're fine with killing an unborn baby for any reason, correct?

Stranger: I don't think it's RIGHT but I don't think the government should be involved

Stranger: who wants to be the child of a rape or incest?

You: Should the government be involved if the mother wants to kill her perfectly healthy one-year-old?

Stranger: yes because the kid could go somewhere else

Stranger: be adopted

You: I know plenty of rape babies.

Stranger: when a woman is pregnant you can't take the child away

You: I just want it to be clear that I think rape is a terrible crime.

Stranger: and I think it's a horrible reminder of a highly traumatic crime

You: What if no adoptive parents can be found?

Stranger: there's TONS

Stranger: we have no shortage of wanna be parents

Stranger: just look at the egg donation industry

You: Okay, would you be okay with banning abortions after the baby can be born alive?

You: So that the baby could then be adopted out?

Stranger: yes

Stranger: after the baby is born

Stranger: u can't kill it

Stranger: which surprise surprise is the law already

You: What about before the baby is born but after viability has been reached?

You: After around 22 weeks, the baby can be born and survive.

Stranger: well, there's so many risk factors. So, if a woman is raped and she might die because of the baby and it'll be impaired anyway since she's a crackhead, do u think she could abort?

Stranger: even if she could die?

You: I think that if she will die, of course we should allow abortion.

You: If the mom dies, the baby dies anyways.

Stranger: you never know for certain though

Stranger: she MIGHT live

Stranger: but there is a health risk

You: But to answer your question on who would want to be a rape baby, I could give you several people.

Stranger: so what if the woman is a young professional and her entire career will be ruined because of incest? Her entire life and dreams, gone.

You: One of my Friends was conceived of gang rape.

You: Now, are you saying that it is okay to kill someone because they affect their mother's carreer?

Stranger: is it ok to destroy a woman's career and ambitions?

Stranger: in essence, their life?

You: No, it is not.

You: And the person who raped her will go to jail.

Stranger: not always

Stranger: so many people get away, actually

You: But is it okay to punish her innocent child?

You: That is a problem.

Stranger: it's not being punished it's being put to sleep like a sick dog

Stranger: do we call what we do to a sick dog "punishment"?

You: We aren't talking about dogs/

Stranger: What are humans but glorified animals?

Stranger: I'm a vegetarian

You: We are talkting about perfectly healthy people.

Stranger: I refuse to eat flesh.

Stranger: We put down thousands of animals a year simply because they are unwanted and no one protests that

You: We do that because society does not value animals as much as humans.

Stranger: society is transcendental. The Ancient Egyptians valued cats because of their religion, we value humans exclusively as a result of our own

Stranger: Life is life

You: If we did value animals, we would not kill unwanted ones.

Stranger: but we don't. However, I do

Stranger: so i do what is in my power

Stranger: I don't eat meat and I adopted a stray kitten I found despite the inconvenience

You: Would you say that Juda Myers or Kristi Hofferber have no right to live?

Stranger: who?

You: Juda was conceived when 8 men raped her mother

You: Kristi was concieved from father/daugher incest rape

Stranger: If their mothers had chosen not to take them to term, i think they should have that choice

Stranger: I applaud the women for being stronger than I ever could be and making such a strong decision

You: Would you be fine with the choice to kill them after birth?

Stranger: then there's no reason

Stranger: once they're born, there's no reason to kill them

You: What about the moment before birth?

Stranger: define

You: Not much to define there.

You: Same baby, different place.

Stranger: as in, they're in the birth canal, or a day before?

You: As in a couple minutes before labor starts.

Stranger: at that point, abortion would be just as bad as giving birth

Stranger: and senseless

You: What about a day before?

Stranger: again, senseless

You: A month before?

Stranger: a month before, is the baby a health risk?

You: No.

Stranger: that's more fuzzy for me.

You: We're not talking about a health risk.

You: Over 90% of abortions are for socioeconomic reasons.

Stranger: early on, I'd think in the first trimester or maybe even second (because some women don't know they're pregnant for months)

Stranger: yes

Stranger: for example

Stranger: I am graduating college this May

Stranger: I am a young woman about to embark on her career

Stranger: Were I to become pregnant, i would carry the child to term. However, all of my life goals would be forfeit

Stranger: I would be living a life I hated

Stranger: and hate the child because of that

You: Okay, what if you didn't find out you were pregnant until you gave birth? Would it be okay to kill a newborn for the sake of your carreer?

Stranger: lol wow SURPRISE

Stranger: no, give up for adoption

You: Why is it different?

You: It's the same kid.

Stranger: because it's no longer biologically attached to the mother

You: So, being attached to someone else makes you forfiet the right to not be murdered?

Stranger: lol, u got it

You: So, can I go and shoot some conjoined twins now?

Stranger: well, killing one hurts the other

You: Put one on pain killers.

Stranger: but often they try to save one twin by removing (killing) the other

Stranger: as in, mortally endangers

You: Not if both can live.

You: Take the Hensel twins for instance.

Stranger: thats f***ed up

Stranger: I dunno what the parents were thinking

Stranger: IF they were

You: So, are you saying that Abigail and Brittany don't have a right to live?

Stranger: I'm saving that they should have been seperated

Stranger: *saying

You: They can't be.

Stranger: so here's a question .... brb

You: They share a lung.

Stranger: then no

Stranger: abortion doesn't hurt the mother significantly

Stranger: so there's a child in Africa

Stranger: and her mother was just murdered by a machete

Stranger: do u take the child home and care for it?

You: Where am I at the time?

Stranger: if you don't, no one else will take it, because it has AIDS

Stranger: part of a peacekeeping force near Chad

You: Okay.

You: Well, I'm not really old enough to adopt.

You: Lemme ask YOU a question.

Stranger: say that you are

Stranger: and then you find out it has 5 brothers and sisters, who will all starve to death if you do nothing

You: There are already relief efforts going on.

You: Here's my question:

Stranger: because no one is giving a shit about people who are being victims of genocide

You: I fly over to Africa, and mow them all down with a machete.

Stranger: we're so worried about our own little white babies that we simple IGNORE the suffering in the world

You: What happens to me?

You: We are directly murdering our babies to the tune of thousands a day.

You: The Africans are starving due to the natural unequal distribution of resources on this planet.

Stranger: no, they're slaughtering each other because of cruelty and insanity I think

Stranger: the leaders of some of these "revolutionary" forces are batshit crazy

Stranger: brb

You: Are we talking about the starving or the machete murder?

You: Because I'm all for locking up the machetteist.

You: But as for the starving, we can't really sue the planet.

Stranger: back

Stranger: they're intertwined

Stranger: some folks go on a killing spree so the rest of the people flee, causing an overpopulation

You: And I'm pretty sure those killing sprees are illegal.

Stranger: like Chad, they have all the starvation because there's tens of thousands of people who fled the Sudan

Stranger: they are

Stranger: but NO ONE does ANYTHING

You: And there's international task forces to help Africa.

Stranger: everyone can even all AGREE it's illegal

Stranger: but we all sit on our hands

Stranger: pathetic

You: There's the UN.

Stranger: and they're hardly doing a thing

You: I agree completely that we need to help them.

You: The state of lawlessness over there is shameful.

Stranger: it's murder

Stranger: genocide

Stranger: not only there

You: We need to prevent murder wherever it may be.

Stranger: http://blogs.ushmm.org/WorldIsWitness/

You: Just wondering, what are the chances of being murdered if you're in Africa?

You: Like, 10%?

You: Because the odds of being murdered in the womb are over 1 in 4

You: There's a 9/11 happening every day in America.

You: A holocaust every 7 years.

You: A multicaust that you admit to opposing but are willing to sit back and let happen.

Stranger: sorry im at work, back now

You: Okay.

Stranger: so what brought this on?

Stranger: any particular reason you're arguing pro-life on a Tuesday morning on Omegle?

You: We both agree that the holocaust in Africa is terrible and we both agree it should be stopped.

Stranger: I mean I totally respect your views my boyfriend is pro-life

You: We both agree the holocaust in America is terrible.

Stranger: my relatives were killed the the Holocaust

You: That is terrible.

Stranger: thats why I have no relatives on my mom's side, basically

You: That sucks.

Stranger: so what did bring this on?

You: Over 1 in 4 of my generation was killed by abortion.

You: I was at one time considered subhuman.

You: And it baffles me for someone to say that abortion is wrong, and then turn around and say they're fine that in 1992 I had no legal rights whatsoever.

You: BTW, you said that we don't know when life begins.

You: That's bogus.

Stranger: define "life"\

You: An embryo grows, develops, metabolizes, reacts to stimuli

Stranger: so do animals

You: Animals are also alive.

Stranger: and trees>

Stranger: ?

Stranger: fish?

You: Yes.

You: Plants, animals, fungi

Stranger: then I'm merely saying that humans have an animal existance until they are born

Stranger: a tapeworm feeds off a human

Stranger: we kill it without second thought

You: We have an animal existence after we're born as well.

You: Humans belong to the kingdom Animalia

Stranger: yet we have no problems killing animals, torturing them even, for food

You: We have no problem killing nonhuman animals for food.

You: Kill a human for food and see what happens.

Stranger: right, why not humans?

You: Because we are humans.

You: As such, we ought to respect one another.

Stranger: exactly. we are biased by our own species.

You: Every species is.

Stranger: again: why I don't eat meat

You: You don't eat meat, but you are fine with killing human beings/

You: ?

Stranger: I think BOTH are wrong, but I don't think the government should have a say in either

You: Do you know what government is for?

Stranger: are you familiar with the art of argumentation?

Stranger: both individuals must be willing to admit their own views are wrong. I do not believe either of us are, so this argument is pointles

You: I am willing to admit my views are wrong.

Stranger: I don't think the government has the right to criminalize a woman if she decides that she desires an abortion.

You: Does the government have the right to criminalize a woman if she decides that she desires to murder her toddler?

You: I'm just confused as to what your position is,

Stranger: you act as if the woman has nothing to do with her fetus

Stranger: toddlers can be gotten rid of in other ways

You: So, if a fetus can be gotten rid of in other ways, is it wrong to kill him?

Stranger: yes, but we do not have that capacity yet

You: After around 22 weeks, labor could be induced and the baby could survive.

Stranger: by cesearean section?

You: C-section, or just induce contractions.

You: Either way.

Stranger: huh I didn't know that. Well then, the government should pay for the procedure

You: I think the government should pay for all procedures.

Stranger: ok then, but before the 22 week mark, abortion legal

Stranger: after a doctor verifies the child can be extracted

You: That 22 week mark is not set in stone.

You: It varies based on the medical technology.

Stranger: doctor verification first

You: The number is getting earlier and earlier.

Stranger: how so?

You: Neonatal incubators and such.

Stranger: I was unaware that a child could be extracted before birth without significant damage

Stranger: so long as the woman is able to get rid of the child if she so desires

You: Without the incubator and the pure oxygen and everything after I was born a month early, I could've died.

You: Okay, what if the baby is born and nobody wants it?

Stranger: I think that the woman should pay for part of the procedure if it's for socioeconomic reasons after the 1st abortion

Stranger: so she couldn't use it as birth control

Stranger: someone will want the baby

Stranger: babies are in high demand

You: Have you heard of embryo adoption?

Stranger: Well I want to donate my eggs

Stranger: because I get $$ for it

You: Have you heard of IVF?

Stranger: yup

You: Well, after IVF there are lots of leftover embryos.

You: Infertile couples can have them implanted.

You: Let's say everyone adopts an embryo.

You: There are plenty.

You: Now, all those looking to adopt have already adopted.

You: And the mom can't place her newborn for adoption.

Stranger: then the state adopts it as a ward

You: Does the newborn then loose her right to live?

Stranger: foster houses

You: All the foster homes are full.

Stranger: LOL

Stranger: sounds like a case of dire overpopulation then

You: And the baby is a crack baby or something so nobody wants her

Stranger: if no one has room we're all dying of starvation anyways

You: My point is: does the lack of adoptive parents take avway your human rights?

Stranger: but there'll always be people like yourself willing to adopt

Stranger: point is there always will be adoptive parents

You: I'm not willing.

Stranger: if it was that or death for the infant?

Stranger: you wouldn't?

You: How would I learn of this infant?

Stranger: a friend of a friend

You: Anyway, this has nothing to do with the rights of the unborn.

Stranger: wait

Stranger: just answer

You: You're attacking my character,

Stranger: no

Stranger: im not

Stranger: im simply say that wouldn't your inaction be murder? where do we draw the line between action and inaction being the cause of death?

You: Even if I was an abortionist, my arguments would stand on their won

You: own^

Stranger: and you do have a solid argument

Stranger: which many people subscribe to

Stranger: but myself, like many others, have differing opinions

You: So, your opinion is that if no adoptive parents can be found, the baby forfiets her right to live?

You: It's fine to shoot her?

Stranger: no

You: Why not?

Stranger: child becomes a ward of the state

Stranger: if the state makes abortions illegal the state must also accept the children

You: Okay, so what if we could take the unborn baby at, say, 21 weeks, and have her be born alive

Stranger: ok

You: Would abortion be wrong then?

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